Swedish Military Pepperbox?

Started by Fabian23, 13. June 2016 kl. 7:27:27

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Fabian23

I am trying to find a picture of an experimental military pepperbox pistol that the Swedes played with back in the day.  I read an article on it many years ago in a Dutch collectors magazine but can't remember the magazine nor what the pistol was called.

I remember it had a beautiful futuristic shape with a saw handle but that's it.

Any Swedes on here that might have a clue?
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Fabian23

Typical, writing the post must have jogged my memory!

Ladies and Gents, here is the Feilitzen pepperbox:



[link]http://digitaltmuseum.se/011024392699[/url]
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jæger justnæs

Very exciting, Fabian23!
From what I gather from the text the  barrels roteted and hammer was cocked using the middle finger to pull the trigger backwards and fired using the index finger to pull the front part(?) of the trigger.
And the barrels are marked from 6 to 10, indicating that there might have been two barrel sets for the pistol -the other probably market 1-5.
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Fabian23

Hi

Yes, that is what I basically gathered from the Google-translate version of the description.  The original article where I saw this had a beautiful technical drawing of the insides which I remember had a linear stricker.  I must see if I can get a copy of it.
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Staffy

How were the nipples capped - was it necessary to unscrew the knurled piece at the front of the cylinders to move them forward or could they be accessed through the circular cut outs on the action. Beautiful piece - isn't envy a dreadful thing and a very human failing!

Staffy

Hi Fabian and Tor,
        Curiosity got the better of me, so I contacted Mr. A Erstorp, curator of pre-1900 weapons at the Swedish Museum. He confirms the lower trigger rotates the barrels 1/5th and cocks the pistol, the upper trigger does the rest!
        To load, the front screw is removed and the cylinders moved forward to enable capping. This would also facilitate the swopping of cylinder assemblies, so a separate set would be handy. Quite when the powder and ball is loaded would depend on safe handling.
        It is attributed to Admiral von Feilitzen in 1861.
        My thanks to Mr. Erstorp, who is most patient and helpful with my enquiries. Staffy.

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Thank you for sharing valuable information, Staffy. Much appreciated :-)

Regards, Tor
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Staffy

Apologies folks  -  
        should have read Mr. Erstorp's response more closely.
        It is the striker that rotates, not the barrels, presumably like some of the American four barrel pocket pistols.    My abject apologies. Staffy.

Staffy

I've checked English Firearms Patents of the time, but there is no reference to Admiral von Feilitzen - so that's a dead end!
       However, there is a reference to August Gustaf Reinhold von Feilitzen in google. The piece is in Swedish, but thanks to mr. google there is a translation. He was connected with the Motala Works, so there may be the chance to follow up with them, if any one local has the time.
       :duell: