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Title: Norwegian pinfire revolvers?
Post by: Fabian23 on 11. August 2010 kl. 19:50:47
I was reading up on the military adoption of pinfire revolvers and saw that most Scandinavian countries adopted a varient of the French 1858 navy revolver.  It seems however that only Norway adopted the Lefaucheux triple action revolver for officers.  Having never seen any Norwegian marked military pinfire revolver I assume they are all destroyed or hoarded in collections in Norway?

  I'd love to get my hands on one to go with my Swedish 1863 navy revolver.:-D
Title: Norwegian pinfire revolvers?
Post by: Fabian23 on 13. August 2010 kl. 5:42:17
Oh come on!  Surely the Norwegian members know something?  I'll help you then....The standard model is either M1859 or M1864, I wasn't sure of my Norwegian :-P
Title: Norwegian pinfire revolvers?
Post by: Øyvind F. on 13. August 2010 kl. 6:18:00
I don't know much about these revolvers, but the numbers produced are approximately as follows: The Army purchased 1500 single action Lefaucheux revolvers of which 1300 was manufactured in France and 200 at the Kongsberg armoury. The Navy bought 1300 revolvers between 1860 and 1864 of which 200 where single actions.

Trond, correct me if I'm wrong
Title: Norwegian pinfire revolvers?
Post by: Fabian23 on 13. August 2010 kl. 8:41:55
Well, its a start :-D Thanks Øyvind!

I am basing my information on the excellent book:

Systeme Lefaucheux: Continuing the Study of Pinfire Cartridge Arms Including Their Role in the American Civil War by Chris C. Curtis

With respect to the military models it covers the French, Italian, Spanish, Russian, Danish, Swedish and Norwegian models.  I have seen examples of all except the Russian (only a few unofficial copies made) and Norwegian ones.

The triple action is interesting since the said "third mode" allows you to cock the hammer by a first distinctive pull of the trigger, and pull the trigger again to fire.  It gives you the speed advantage of double action cocking with the lighter trigger pull of a single action.
Title: Norwegian pinfire revolvers?
Post by: Fabian23 on 13. August 2010 kl. 10:29:31
The triple action looks something like this:
(http://www.armeancienne.fr/images/img_pistolets_revolvers/ref_887/principale/grande_REF-R10-781.gif)
Title: Norwegian pinfire revolvers?
Post by: Trond on 13. August 2010 kl. 19:18:22
It looks a lot like a polished down version of the Norwegian officers versions. On the pic the top one is an officers version, the other one is a Kongsberg produced revolver for enlisted men.

(http://i1020.photobucket.com/albums/af328/trondwi/rev.jpg)

When these were sold from the military, they were marked with a crowned lion.

Trond
Title: Norwegian pinfire revolvers?
Post by: Fabian23 on 16. August 2010 kl. 10:18:25
The officer model was also produced by Lefaucheux for the civilian market also and trialed for the French Army in 1864 but rejected. Despite this it was popular as a private purchase pistol for officers.  I don't suppose you know where one is hiding (a Norwegian one):-D
Title: Norwegian pinfire revolvers?
Post by: Trond on 16. August 2010 kl. 11:30:32
A good one usually are frightfully expensive. The one on the pic is probably worth at least NOK 15 000 or USD 2500. The single action Kongsberg produced one with the strap probably twice of that again.

Trond
Title: Norwegian pinfire revolvers?
Post by: jke on 16. August 2010 kl. 22:00:20
My that is a very large price difference between the Kongsberg produced single action and a Swedish M1863. Though they do look very much alike, that is except for the top strap.
But I guess most Norwegian arms command generally higher prices than similar Swedish arms.
Title: Norwegian pinfire revolvers?
Post by: Fabian23 on 18. August 2010 kl. 7:12:40
Strange is it not.  Although the Norwegian produced ones rightly deserve the price due to rarity.
Title: pinfire revolvers?
Post by: gianluca bellini on 18. January 2013 kl. 12:12:13
Hallo, how are you, I am sorry for my english, I am finding same information about one revolver that I have recived how present from my granfather. May be that you know about it.
In the bottom of handly there is write FIRST COLT 1864, the holes for the bullets, are mor or les of 12mm. and there are 6.
If is possible, I like recive same foto or same adrres mail where see more abaut.
I do not can load fotograph here, if you can sand me une mail addres, I can sand you same.

Thank you very much.
Title: pinfire revolvers?
Post by: Øyvind F. on 18. January 2013 kl. 12:18:51
> I do not can load fotograph here, if you can sand me une mail addres, I can sand you same.

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